Bilderbergers do determine policy for the coming year
(2 - english)
Former Secretary-general of NATO confesses
4 June 2010
A transcript of the 'interview' that Koen Fillet of VRT Radio
1 had with the former Secretary-general of NATO, Willy Claes.
Introduction (Koen Filet): The best secured place in the
world at this moment is probably hotel "Dolces"
in the Spanish city of Sitges. In that hotel Dolces the Bilderberg
Group are gathering since yesterday, Thursday. The Bilderberg
Group, ladies and gentleman, is a club of the most powerful
people in the world. And in general all that has to do with
the Bilderberg Group is a secret: where they gather - even
though that has come out now - who is invited, what is being
discussed, well, you can not say anything sensible about it,
yet that is what I shall try now on the radio.
KF: Good evening, Willy Claes
Willy Claes: Good evening
KF: Mister Claes I am calling you because, not even so long
ago, you were one of that club of the 'powers that be', right?
WC: I have been invited twice, and that was in the period
that I was Secretary-general of NATO, yes.
KF: Yes, and that brings us right to where we want to go,
because isn't that the origin of this Bilderberg Group, the
Cold War, the battle...
WC: Absolutely. Yes, this Bilderberg conference was indeed
founded, so to speak, to strengthen the alliance between the
two sides of the Atlantic Ocean, and to keep it strong in
the face of the Communist danger that was threatening us from
the Soviet Union and the Soviet block, yes.
KF: And that might explain all this secrecy, all this covertness
WC: Yes, absolutely. Moscow was listening, ... was listening
in and they didn't deem it necessary to go public with this
exchange of ideas, as that wasn't allowed.
KF: I have been told that members of the press are invited,
but that they, even those journalists, have to promise they
will not write about it
WC: That's right. The Bilderberg conference invites people
who are very influential, who do not only belong to the world
of politics, but also to the financial, economical world and
- why not? - to the world of communication.
KF: That is very much against the character of journalism,
I must say.
WC: Yes, but still it is so. I think I do remember though
an ... American journalist being there...
KF: (interrupts) ah so no Belgians...
WC: Nooonono, absolutely not.
KF: Few Belgians go there huh, and as I said earlier in my
introduction: "everything's a secret". But then
it is leaked that [crown]prince Filip en Luc Coenen [Belgian
National Bank] will be attending, as is of course Etienne
Davignon, as I believe he is the chairman
WC: I can not inform you about the possible attendance of
prince Filip and Luc Coenen, but there can be no doubt about
the presence of two persons, and that is Davignon, as you
mentioned, and also Henry Kissinger, those two are the main
pillars around whom the whole Bilderberg conference revolves.
Others you can regular see there are de queen of the Netherlands
and the king of Spain.
KF: And what do they, I know you are not allowed to say anything
about it, but I will ask anyway: what do they talk about?
WC: Well look, it's not all that secret really. There is
an agenda for the day with the most pressing problems the
world is confronted with... that is discussed... and that
discussion is held very disciplined. There is a rapporteur
who has been appointed in advance and who gets ten minutes
to do an introduction. The interventions are also strictly
limited. Whether it's Kissinger or someone else; he'll be
blocked when he exceed his time limit. But these are very
KF: Tell me, mister Claes, what happens after everyone has
had his ten minutes? Is there a vote? Are decisions being
WC: Nooonono, there is never a vote, no resolutions are being
put to paper ...
KF: ... What is...?
WC: ... but naturally... the rapporteur always tries to draw
up a synthesis, and everyone is assumed to make use of
these conclusions in the circles where he has influence
KF: And you as Secretary-general of NATO are used to something,
but this must be very luxurious and under incredible safety
WC: Safety measures yes, but luxury, no. To lift a bit of
the veil: there is another aspect to the code that has to
be respected. At every meal the partners will have to be seated
next to different partners. So there has to be a genuine exchange
of ideas ... talking to the same ones all the times is not
allowed, and so ... there's changes at every meal.
KF: Is that perhaps also to prevent wrong impressions from
being made ... that coalitions and sub-meetings emerge?
WC: I don't know that. I think that it's simply meant to
make sure that there is a genuine flow of different and even
KF: The Bilderberg Group, gathering since yesterday in the
Spanish town of Sitges. It is said that the meeting will last
until Sunday, but we do not really know, do we mister Claes,
as it is all so secretive and covert?
WC: I can not tell you how long the meeting will last.
KF: But thanks anyway for lifting a few of the veils
WC: It's my pleasure.
Translation: Arjan Plantinga
to the radio interview (the Bilderberg item starts a quarter
into the podcast).
the original transcript in Dutch.